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Okay, here is a detailed briefing document summarizing the key themes and ideas from the provided excerpts of David Bohm’s “Thought as a System.”
I. Core Argument:
David Bohm, in “Thought as a System,” challenges the traditional understanding of thought as a neutral observer of reality. Instead, he posits that thought is an active, participatory process that shapes our perceptions, feelings, and actions, both individually and collectively. He argues that our reliance on fragmented and often unconscious thought processes is a primary source of human conflict and incoherence. The book proposes a radical redefinition of thought, encompassing not just intellectual processes but also emotions, the body, and even human-made artifacts. He suggests that by developing a “proprioception of thought”—an awareness of how thought operates and its impact on our perceptions and actions—we can unlock a deeper intelligence and foster individual and collective transformation.
II. Key Concepts and Ideas:
- Thought as a System: Bohm rejects the notion of thought as a discrete, purely intellectual activity. He argues that thought encompasses a vast, interconnected system that includes “body, emotion, intellect, reflex, and artifact” (Foreword). These elements mutually inform one another, creating a dynamic and complex whole.
- Quote: “Body, emotion, intellect, reflex, and artifact are to be seen as one unbroken field of mutually informing thoughts. These component interact so that we are compelled to see thought as a system.”
- Thought as Memory and Reflex: Thought is not fresh perception; it is the past carried into the present. It is “the instantaneous display of memory, a superimposition of images onto the active, living present.” Furthermore, much of our thinking is driven by “hard-wired” neurophysiological reflexes that operate outside of our conscious control.
- Quote: “Thought is not fresh, direct perception. It is literally that which has been thought – the past, carried forward into the present.”
- Quote: “Vast amount of our thought just comes out from the reflex system.”
- The Collective Nature of Thought: Bohm stresses that thought is primarily a collective phenomenon, a “flow of meaning between people,” rather than an individual activity stemming from a isolated “self.” Our sense of personal identity is a “private mixture of collective movements of values, meanings, and intentions.”
- Quote: “To Bohm flow of meaning between people is more fundamental than any individual’s particular thoughts. The individual is thus seen as a private mixture of collective movements of values, meanings, and intentions.”
- Thought as Participatory, Not Neutral: Thought does not passively observe reality, but actively shapes it. We assume “that it is just telling you the way things are and that is not doing anything,” which Bohm argues is a dangerous assumption. Our perceptions are molded by thought’s interpretations and representations, which can lead to illusion and self-deception.
- Quote: “The representation affects perception. It is a tremendous source of illusion if we lose track of the fact that this is happening.”
- Fragmentation as a Consequence of Thought: Thought has a tendency to break up wholes into parts that should not be separated, leading to divisions and conflicts within individuals and society. “Thought is breaking things up into bits which should not be broken up,” which is manifested in various ways, including nationalism and religious conflict.
- Quote: “Nationalism has broken things up, yet the world is all one.”
- The Illusion of the “Self”: The concept of an independent “I” controlling thought is a construct of thought itself, not an actual entity. Thought “gives us the false information that I control my thoughts. It creates the impression that it is our servant and does what we want, but thought runs you.” The sense of self as a stable, continuous entity is an illusion generated by thought, and this self-image is very powerful.
- Quote: “We have a picture (in our mind) that there is ‘somebody’ inside us who is given all this information and then it decides to have the intention to do something based on that. I’m suggesting that it is not so.”
- The Problem of Incoherence: Thought constantly struggles against its own creations, generating “incoherence” and “situations contrary to our conscious intentions.” This incoherence arises because thought acts without awareness of its own participation in creating problems.
- Quote: “The major problem with thought is that it is doing something and then it struggles against what it is doing. It does not want to know that it is doing it. That is sustained incoherence.”
- The Need for Proprioception of Thought: Just as we have proprioception for our bodies, we need to develop an awareness of thought’s movements. This means being able to see how thought affects our perceptions and actions in real time. We need to become aware of “how thought produces a result outside ourselves and then maybe we could also be attentive to the results it produces within ourselves.” This is crucial for breaking the grip of unconscious reflexes.
- Quote: “Is such proprioception of thought possible? Can the movement of thought be aware of itself?”
- The Role of Insight: True understanding is not simply intellectual; it involves “insight,” a form of intelligence that is “a subtle level of intelligence in the universe at large.” Insight has the potential to disrupt fixed thought patterns and create more coherent forms of thinking and acting.
- Quote: “To Bohm insight is not the a-ha phenomenon of having grasped some puzzle but active energy, a subtle level of intelligence in the universe at large.”
- The Importance of Dialogue: Dialogue provides a space where collective thought can be explored and insight can emerge. It is in dialogue that we can begin to see the flow of meaning and the shared nature of our thinking processes. “In a group dialogue, people may be able to detect the flow of meaning passing through the members. There is a possibility of direct insight into the collective movement of thought, rather than its expression in any particular individual.”
- Quote: “For insight together we need dialogue. Individually a person can have insight, but we need it together.”
- The Limitation of Knowledge: Knowledge is a representation of reality, not reality itself. As such, it is inherently limited and can’t fully encapsulate what “is.” We must recognize that our understanding is always partial and leave room for the unknown. “Knowledge may be adequate, but it is not the thing itself. It is not ‘that which is’.”
- The Now and the Nature of Time: Our experience of time is shaped by thought. The past and the future are abstractions; all that exists is the present moment. “All you have is the present, the now.”
- Quote: “The past is mostly invented. You can hardly remember very much of what happened in the past. And the future is an expectation which is seldom realized.”
- The Need for a New Kind of Culture: We require a new culture founded on the “seeing the meaning of the whole situation and seeing the value of it.” This new culture would emphasize our interconnectedness and understanding of the nature of thought, facilitating a more coherent and compassionate way of life.
III. Implications and Significance:
Bohm’s work challenges us to question our deepest assumptions about thought, knowledge, and reality. By revealing the active and participatory nature of thought, he points to a path of transformation for individuals and society. His ideas have profound implications for how we understand conflict, relationships, and the nature of being human. By recognizing that thought, rather than a neutral instrument, is deeply implicated in our problems and that these problems are a reflection of a “systemic fault” in thought, Bohm opens up possibilities for finding more coherent and creative responses to the challenges we face. This is not achieved through intellectual understanding alone, but through a deeper form of awareness, “insight,” and a willingness to engage in dialogue.
IV. Conclusion:
David Bohm’s “Thought as a System” offers a powerful and provocative perspective on the role of thought in shaping our individual and collective experiences. His analysis of thought as a complex system, his critique of our fragmented and unconscious thinking processes, and his exploration of insight as a means of transformation, provide a compelling roadmap for achieving a more coherent and compassionate world.
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